Do you ever feel like what you learned in law school didn't prepare you for the world of running a law practice? Law school didn't teach us how to start our practices the right way so we could scale them into a thriving business. We didn't learn how to make sure that our businesses would meet our financial goals and provide the type of lifestyle we deserve. After ten years, I was fed up with struggling in my practice and decided to begin a journey to scaling a
successful practice that would actually allow me to finally live the life I've always dreamed of. I invite you to listen in on the conversations I'm having with some of the most successful solo and small firm practitioners along with leading business entrepreneurs and share how I am implementing what I am learning. All with the goal of helping you take control of your practice, and your life. This is The Law Entrepreneur.
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My guest on this episode is my good friend Jordan Ostroff. Jordan is an attorney down in Orlando, Florida. He is also the owner and creator of a legal marketing company called LegalEase. Today, I asked him on the show to specifically talk about a topic that I see come up over and over again on all the social media channels and in all the blogs that I pay attention to: the role and use of artificial intelligence in the legal marketplace, and how something called ChatGPT is taking off and is being touted as a game changer. I have to admit that I have for a number of different reasons, kind of stuck my head in the sand with respect to AI in the legal space, so I wanted to get somebody to school beyond the subject and there’s nobody better than Jordan and so hopefully you’ll be as enamored with the information as I was.
In this episode, Neil and Jordan discuss:
- ChatGPT and AI in the legal marketplace.
- Doing things differently in your marketing.
- What ChatGPT can do and how it is learning as it is used.
- Delegating the 80% to AI.
Key Takeaways:
- If you’re truly standing out and doing things differently, AI is going to allow you to do marketing easier, more consistently, and cheaper than ever before.
- Writing is where we are seeing AI make more inroads.
- While an AI is not a person and won’t see things in the same way a person would, taking into account current events and in-the-moment changes, it can often point out things that seemed too simple or were overlooked by people.
- AI will allow you to create content more quickly, allowing you to have a baseline that can then be tweaked to your writing style, content, and ideas in a more timely fashion.
“The more that you’re spending time honing your craft, the less you’re wasting time on random BS that fills up our week, instead replacing that with automation and delegation. It’s going to be awesome to see how much more time people have to be better at their actual jobs, to move the ball forward, and to provide a better experience.” — Jordan Ostroff
Get in touch with Jordan Ostroff:
Website: https://www.jordanlawfl.com/
LegalEase: https://www.legaleasemarketing.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jordan.ostroff/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-ostroff/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawyerwithalife/
Listen to the first episode with Jordan here!: https://thelawentrepreneur.com/episodes/274-finding-your-place-in-the-marketplace-with-jordan-ostroff/
ChatGPT: https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/
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Listen to the episode hereToday, my guest is Miriam Airington-Fisher. And Miriam is a law firm owner in the Richmond, Virginia area, who quite humbling to me, has been a longtime listener of The Law Entrepreneur and credits the program for helping her shape her practice as she was starting out as a solo practitioner in the criminal defense world, while trying to raise initially one and now three children at the same time. We talk about that journey, how convoluted and complex that journey can be for working moms, and how, through that discovery, she came to author a book called Mom’s a Lawyer: Start a Firm and Take Control of Your Life, which then also gave rise to a course called Law Firm Launch. You’re going to hear that whole span of development and growth from Miriam and it’s just quite literally fascinating to me. I hope you enjoy it!
In this episode, Neil and Miriam discuss:
- Balancing parenthood and running a law firm.
- Building a firm to fit your lifestyle, regardless of practice area.
- Increasing your fees and providing excellent customer service.
- Strategic hires to grow your firm.
Key Takeaways:
- You aren’t going to know everything you need to know when you first build your practice and begin running it as a business.
- You do not need to build your firm like everyone else’s. You can create systems and designate roles in a way that works for you and your team.
- You can set reasonable boundaries and expectations while still being a diligent attorney.
- The number one reason women (up to ⅓) leave a legal career at the height of their career is because of family and home pressures.
“I want to have a successful practice that serves as many people as we can. I want to have an office culture that is healthy, and that supports our team members excelling professionally, but also having a work-life balance.” — Miriam Airington-Fisher
Episode Reference:
Find out more about Get Staffed Up and how they can help your firm here: https://getstaffedup.com/tle
Scribe Media: https://scribemedia.com/
Get in touch with Miriam Airington-Fisher:
Website: https://www.momsalawyer.com/ & https://www.airingtonlaw.com/
Email: hello@momsalawyer.com
Book: https://www.momsalawyer.com/book
Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/accessory-to-justice/id1601832073
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSqJEivnENlXzVkDiQBoHCg
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/miriam-airington-fisher-409b27127/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/airingtonlaw/ & https://www.instagram.com/moms_a_lawyer/
Learn more about Law Firm Lunch here: https://www.momsalawyer.com/courses
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- Ruby Receptionist – Virtual receptionist & live call services that will help you grow your office (and save money), one call at a time – to learn more, go to http://ruby.com/ or call 844.311.7829
- The Net Profit CFO – Ryan Kimler works with attorneys who want to enjoy higher net profits without working longer or harder. With just 9 Simple Numbers, Ryan will help you drive more profit to your bottom line-and he won’t confuse you with all the details! Connect with Ryan at www.netprofitcfo.com.
Get in touch with Neil:
Website: https://thelawentrepreneur.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lawentrepreneur
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thelawentrepreneur/?ref=hl
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyralawfirm/
If you’ve enjoyed the podcast, please head to Apple Podcasts and leave a rating & review for the show! It only takes a moment, and really helps me to reach new listeners. You can also head to the website at TheLawEntrepreneur.com for more information on the podcast and my legal services.
Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie
Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Listen to the episode hereToday, my guest is Shanice Miller. Shanice is the owner of The Taskly Group, and they set up your business systems, so you don’t have to. It’s a really interesting model, because we hear attorneys say all the time that they need to systematize, but don’t have the time to do that. Well, her company is tasked with doing just that. They come in, interview you, and go through the workflow. They then find out what needs improvement, they design how to do that, and then they implement the systems for you, including the training and the procedures and what have you. Taskly Group will help you set up your systems and, and provide training to your staff. And I think it’s a really interesting model for those people who are busy tending to the legal needs of their practice and don’t quite have the bandwidth to be able to do the necessary systemizations. I am really thrilled to have Shanice on the program, and I hope you enjoy this interview as much as I did.
In this episode, Neil and Shanice discuss:
- Systems development and implementation.
- The three departments of every business.
- Building a system unique to your law firm.
- Growing to the next level.
Key Takeaways:
- You need to define what is causing problems before you can figure out how to design a system to fix those problems.
- Communication is one of the biggest complaints from many law firm clients. Building a system for regular communication will allow the client to feel cared for.
- There are a lot of different tools that do similar things – pick one that will work for you. The systems can be built into and around that system.
- There are only a certain number of clients you can serve without having systems in place.
“Systems are the key to success in business. It is the key to helping you produce a sustainable business with less stress, fewer errors, and happier clients.” — Shanice Miller
Get in touch with Shanice Miller:
Website: https://tasklygroup.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100081770791413
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanicemiller/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tasklygroup_/
Get Shanice’s FREE 3 Steps to Automating and Scaling here: https://tasklygroup.com/neil
Thank you to our sponsors!
- Ruby Receptionist – Virtual receptionist & live call services that will help you grow your office (and save money), one call at a time – to learn more, go to http://ruby.com/ or call 844.311.7829
- The Net Profit CFO – Ryan Kimler works with attorneys who want to enjoy higher net profits without working longer or harder. With just 9 Simple Numbers, Ryan will help you drive more profit to your bottom line-and he won’t confuse you with all the details! Connect with Ryan at www.netprofitcfo.com.
Get in touch with Neil:
Website: https://thelawentrepreneur.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lawentrepreneur
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thelawentrepreneur/?ref=hl
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyralawfirm/
If you’ve enjoyed the podcast, please head to Apple Podcasts and leave a rating & review for the show! It only takes a moment, and really helps me to reach new listeners. You can also head to the website at TheLawEntrepreneur.com for more information on the podcast and my legal services.
Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie
Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
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